No Series: SEL as a Way of Being for School Leaders

SEL as a Way of Being for School Leaders

Lesson Objective: Learn how to create a positive school culture with a strong focus on social and emotional learning.
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  1. How can you model SEL for your students?
  2. What's one thing you can do to show students that they have your full attention?
  3. What's one strategy for adult SEL that you'd like to try?


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    Welcome to SEL as a way of being you're in the right place at the right time

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    Welcome to SEL as a way of being you're in the right place at the right time and I'm glad you're here it's my pleasure to explore an important topic in education today.

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    This time through the lens of leadership, we focus on Sal for students Sal for teachers and today we're focusing on you all as leaders responsible for yourself and for the other groups in in your schools and districts.

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    Today we're featuring Michelle Trujillo text author of I need to have the book on a post it note by my camera, Kelly Keller course writer of course of course name on a post it note under the camera.

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    My name is Wendy a moto moto Academic Officer for learners edge teaching channel happy to be your facilitator moderator today.

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    As always, the number one question at any webinar is will this be recorded. Yes, it will please rest assured that tomorrow you will receive an email that includes the webinar, resources, send that to you.

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    And please as we get ready to interact and share an important discussion, be able to participate by opening your chat window, you're going to want to ask questions, share examples.

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    And make sure to change to send to panelists and attendees so that everyone here can enjoy your contributions. Let's open with a chat and make sure that everybody system is up and running, love to have you introduce yourselves I see where coast to coast

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    today, share where you are and then please offer what's on your mind related to social emotional learning as a leader, what kinds of issues or considerations have brought you to this discussion today, while those are coming in.

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    Oh. Can we switch the order on the introductions. Good. I'll do that while people are chatting, then I'll bring the intros him.

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    And are we,

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    We are live.

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    That's perfect. I would. This is where I would want to use some time sharing with you about, about Michelle and Kelly, I have to do a do over here, and expand a little bit more, but please that so much is on our minds right now in es el as leaders and

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    want to make sure that we get that into the chat so we can explore your questions and considerations throughout our topic today, incredible discussion ahead for us. Oh my gosh, the chat is coming in fantastically.

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    And we are coast to coast. I also excited to say we have international guests with us.

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    A lot of incredible considerations being offered here and so much concern for the students and teachers in our populations, welcome everyone to our webinars SEL as a way of being, and we're going to launch right away to Michelle Trujillo, who is a founder

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    of ignite hope now, Michelle, can you tell us a little bit more about your background as we get started. Yes, Hello Wendy so happy to be here today, and thrilled to share with educational leaders in fact, I am a what I consider a forever teacher and a

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    retired high school principal that majority of my time in education was spent in the realm of alternative education for almost 25 years. I serve students who really found it difficult to find success in, however you would define success and that's a great

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    topic as well. Personally and academically, in a traditional setting. And so much of what we did really was grounded in social emotional learning. And so I'm so excited to share with educational leaders today.

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    I really am an advocate for hope and and believe that it starts with the adults.

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    Thank you, glad that you're here, Keeley Keller Michelle's book inspired you to write a course for learners edge Can you introduce yourself a little bit and talk about the impact you're making and teacher education and continuing education through your

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    careful curriculum development.

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    Well, my name is Kayla Kayla I'm the director of professional programs a new title that I get to share today, and I'm a former special education teacher I taught special education for approximately 11 years.

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    And then I went into Special Education Administration, and that was the time when information was coming out about the aces. And so my question at that point was like, this is great to know why a lot of children students are struggling, but what can we

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    do, how can we be proactive and it took a while for us to be able to catch up so I'm excited now that it has.

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    When I was a special education administrator, it was a constant conversation about social emotional learning. I worked in a similar setting as Michelle but also in a in a just a regular school district suburban school district here.

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    And then I started to get into training and decided I really wanted to be involved in professional learning and that's how I ended up at murders edge, initially as the Director of Curriculum and Instruction.

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    And now moving to this new position. And so I wrote the course with Michelle's book because I just firmly believe that all adults need to understand SEO and from like a topical competency level, but also from an intrinsic standpoint as well I feel like

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    there's a lot more reflection and self awareness that we all could do to improve how we model for teachers and then how it model for students. And so I'm excited about the course it's 52 or three SEO social emotional learning starts with you.

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    Welcome everybody there there's a lot for us to discuss here and Kelly you've already identified that there are two sides to this there's the topic itself and we could try to treat it in a clinical analytical way with some distance, but the reality is

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    it's not something that you can do well with that kind of distance and so, Michelle, talk to us a little bit about this fabulous quote and why it's significant and helping us to understand the big conversation.

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    Now, thanks for the question Wendy it's incredibly significant, it's not what we do, it's about how we be. This is something I often say and educators you know automatically have a red flag, your grammar is wrong.

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    And I know it's wrong but it's intentionally so i think so often, when we, when we think about SEO we think about curriculum or program, and evidence based curriculums, they are vital.

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    But we've got to start with a way of being, how do we be in the way in which we interact with ourselves with our colleagues our students and stakeholders within our school communities.

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    That's where we've got to start. It's a way of maybe that that that emotional response that people have just from the grammar is perfect because you grab everyone's attention and you ask them to be present in the discussion.

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    Where shall we take this discussion next, what are what are the considerations that you'd like for us to have at top of mind as we think about being educational leaders and considering Sal.

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    Yeah, you know, I think it's so important, as educational leaders that if we're going to expect something of our employees that we are able to understand fully and invest fully in whatever our expectations are.

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    So when it comes to SEO. So often we want our employees our teachers and counselors and school social workers to roll out Sal curriculum for students.

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    But if we don't understand SEO ourselves if we don't reflect on our own behavior, practice our Sal skills so that we can model, not only for our employees but also for our students and our families.

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    Then we really don't have a lot of ground firm ground to stand on. So really starts with understanding and I think we can look at the five competencies of SEO, in order to get us started.

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    That's great. Let's take a look at those competencies. The.

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    I think having a map for everyone is that is the right place to begin.

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    Well, and so often, when we address Sal, as administrators. We know the importance of a common language, as well as common expectations. So this the diagram excuse me from castle is phenomenal.

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    The way in which it's color coded really helps us to understand that there are two self confidence self awareness and self management. There are two social competencies, the way in which we interact with other humans, social awareness and relationship

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    skills, and then there's one cognitive competency responsible decision making.

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    And so it's important that we understand these competencies, the skills behind each of them, as well as the rationale for living them out ourselves and for teaching them.

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    We know students perform academically better when they are able to practice their own and improve their own Sal skills.

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    Talk to me a little bit about the bands going around the outside.

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    Yeah, I was hoping you would ask about that it's so important in school today, we, we know how important as systematic approaches, we look at what can we do universally.

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    What really do we need to do in regard to interventions or supports for smaller groups of students and what do we need to target as intensive supports.

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    We also have to look at what is our purpose and our behaviors our interventions and our supports within our individual classrooms.

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    What do we explicitly teach in that realm, how do we integrate into our schools a culture of social emotional learning, and then how do we expand that out into our communities, and again that comes down to modeling and common language and common understanding.

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    Thank you Michelle I've put a question in the chat for everybody. I'm wondering who else has seen this graphic already and how you may be using it in your leadership role so if you want to share a little bit in the chat community, I think we can offer

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    one another, some additional discussion there about this important visual. One of the things that I found really interesting about this visuals when I heard thought, probably, maybe six seven years ago, it didn't have the rings around the outside it just

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    had the five competencies and Michelle I didn't even know that the color coding, you know when the internal had to do with, with self and so thanks for letting us know that that's that's awesome, but it didn't include the rings around the outside and

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    I think that's such an important piece that common language, really to be effective doesn't need to be just common language in a classroom it needs to be common language across the school and potentially into, you know, into families and communities where

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    where others can benefit from that I remember a time when I was actually coaching kindergarten soccer, and happened to be an educator in the school district, and the other coaches were amazed that I was able to get these kindergarteners know kind of doing

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    what they needed to do for soccer, but I was taking my cues from what they had all been taught in school and so I think there's power behind sharing this information out with families and community members as well.

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    In addition, so many kids are still in a hybrid learning situation or may continue to be. And so for us to be able to share with our families, it's so important and there are some incredible programs that help with that in fact I'm looking at, at some

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    of the chat Castle has resources galore for schools for teachers for educational leaders as well as for families and communities. I'm excited for everyone to receive the chat as part of our follow up tomorrow because I'm seeing that good suggestions

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    we've got that link to Castle we've got acknowledgement that this visual has been used in teacher workshop staff training people are using it to guide curriculum development.

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    This is, this is a great place for us to start and clearly it's the right people in this conversation around the issue.

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    I think Keeley moved us to the next point which is the importance of reflecting. And I always say it's so important that we look within before we teach out, and I can use myself as a classic example of this so often.

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    I'm running 100 miles an hour as an administrative leader I was, you know, going from point A to point be taken care of business, all the time. And I can just remember walking down the hall this happened again and again any kid would say, hey, T, I got

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    a question, and I would inevitably say walk with me, I got an answer. and I would keep going and hear the question, but what I realized when I took time to reflect is I didn't stop to demonstrate to the student how important that connection was that I

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    really was listening to the question, because I was still in my mode of going. And so I had to really practice some self awareness and self management, to be able to say, who take a deep breath, pause for a minute, this kid has a question.

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    Show them by my behavior that the questions important, as well as the answer that, that I will provide, so we've all got to look within, and we can all improve all of the time.

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    We all know that if we don't reflect. Can you share a little bit about the tabs being open. Oh yeah, my, my husband is a classic story. My husband told me once I can't remember what I was doing, but it was probably, you know, eight things at the same

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    And he turned to me and he said they, you got to close your tabs. And I was like, what, and and automatically defensive you know my I didn't know what he was talking about but I was defensive What are you talking about, he said no, listen.

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    He said sometimes, you seem like your brain is like a computer with 20 tabs open, and you're be bopping from one to the next without ever closing anything down.

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    And for me, I took a moment with it sat with it and it was an epiphany. You know he was right. My caps were always open if I wasn't physically doing something.

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    I was mentally thinking about doing something, while I was doing other things. And sometimes we all have to take a moment to close our tabs to be present.

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    Be still, so that we can create connections.

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    I'm curious why do you have anybody in the chat has close the tab, they might need to close her.

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    I know if we had to put our tab count in right now that might not be too friendly but you've got some people, Chris has noted 18 tabs open Paula says a couple thousand and Shannon Brown says she feels like she has 100 open so we're we are definitely connecting

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    to something, Tanya has an allergy always resonates with people always resonates because when you have a local says Guilty as charged.

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    Great, great. Right. One of the things I liked about this idea of reflection is that I really as a as an administrator, I noticed that my teachers wanted to engage with me about initiatives that that they have been, you know, asked to enter into or whatever

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    it might have been and I got a lot further as a leader when I was walking alongside of them and what I mean by that is, I was also engaged in the same type of learning and and self awareness checks as they were and then we were able to kind of embed those

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    things into team meetings and newsletters and, you know, it just became more than finding an explicit curriculum for social emotional learning, it became really a, a way of being right we're so you're you're embedding it in all of the different things

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    that you do and as a leader. I think it's a great way to get teachers to really see you as a support system as we're pushing initiatives out.

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    If we had to offer some concrete actionable items to leaders that would help them demonstrate their commitment to Sal, I'm already hearing, slow down.

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    Perhaps if if you run baby walk. If you walk perhaps stop, sometimes, and allow people to be with you.

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    I'm also thinking about having placeholders in agendas where you have time in a meeting that's not planned for in order to be receptive to what what the needs are of the group in that moment but you've got some other advice for us.

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    Let's look at the at the practice here.

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    Absolutely. Well as you say placeholders in a meeting I do want to piggyback on that a little bit Wendy because it's so important to encourage discussion and productive dialogue amongst our staff, if, if we want them to invest in a movement in an initiative

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    in a practice, we have to be able to talk about it, right, we don't have as educational leaders, all the answers. We have experts among us on our own staff and we want to leverage their strengths, and we also want to learn from areas in need of growth

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    and we can only do that when we come together we listen to each other and we share with each other and solution seek together, it's empowering for for a staff and we have to remember that as educators.

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    I also think in regard to practicing our SEO skills. We want to be able to improve, always, I used to tell my students, you know I said they didn't typically find success in the traditional school or classroom setting.

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    And so when they came to us, they often saw it as a fresh start. A time to begin doing things differently, and I would remind them that the adults within our school, we, we took every day in that same light as well.

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    We can all look at ourselves and say, What can I do differently today.

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    What is an area of growth for me today or an opportunity to grow that's what life is about right. We want to grow. So if we look at the different SEO skills and choose a competency self awareness, or self management or social awareness and then challenge

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    ourselves, each day to practice in one area. For me, self management, learning to take an like a very intentional breath when I'm running that hundred miles an hour going in different directions to just stop for, you know, four seconds Breathe in through

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    my nose.

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    Hold it.

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    And breathe out through my mouth for me to say I'm going to meditate for 30 minutes probably isn't going to happen, but an intentional breath. in the midst of what I'm doing.

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    Already, it makes a difference. That's something we can practice. And I also encourage educational leaders, as well as teachers, counselors any school staff.

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    We all have a lot on our plates. So let's set small attainable goals, little things, just like that intentional breath, rather than huge I'm going to become this great SEO expert, we can all dip our toe in to opportunities to improve.

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    Yeah, that reminds me Michelle of the time as a special education administrator were special education administration oftentimes there's, there's some conflict right there's quite a bit of conflict know it's going into the meeting and I had teachers with

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    And so we did actually take a few moments to just mindfully think about how we wanted that meeting to go and it did go better and I think, you know, as a leader if we can just even model that tiny little thing before a meeting or using a super.

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    I don't know if you guys have seen the super power pose that you do and neurologically at like actually helps you prepare for big things right so, even those tiny little practices that might just out of, you know, out of the ordinary or something a leader

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    wouldn't necessarily do. You're really providing a new skill to a teacher if you could say hey, think about how you want to enter this meeting you know how maybe think about how you want to be intentional and the words you want to use beforehand and I

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    think that's that's good leadership as well. Absolutely. There's a nice suggestion in the chat, that's encouraging leaders to invite anonymous feedback.

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    I think if you, if you can brace yourself and roll your shoulders and be open to what comes the acknowledgement here is that it can help us to be aware of our own blind spots I appreciate that, that suggested in there.

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    Thank you, and it also provides an opportunity for voice.

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    It provides an opportunity for your staff to freely share. You know what their concerns are, what their celebrations are.

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    And this does take leaders back to, to just mindsets as well and leaders need to have a growth mindset as well and even if, as you said, Wendy some of that stuff might be tougher to hear.

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    It's still we as leaders need to show that we have a growth mindset and are willing to work to change and do better next time.

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    love it.

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    I love this slide about this. Yes, I love this slide, because I really do think that I'm becoming more self aware about social emotional learning or culturally responsive teaching or whatever the topic may be involved some, some hard work and even hard

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    work. And what I mean by that is not everybody is vulnerable ready with a vulnerability to be able to just enter into a conversation of have their own strengths and challenges with other people.

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    And so, I love, Michelle you can explain exactly what you have here but I love this and you have one for each competency because it allows a person to take stock and think about what is one step I can take today, and it can be very personal, it doesn't

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    need to be something that shared with multiple people, and then it allows folks to practice these things, and then start to gain a level of comfort and then eventually that vulnerability, you know they gained some courage and some strength through practicing

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    some of these things on their own and so I like this entry point for leaders but also for teachers as well because I think there's so much coming at us that it's so important for us to be self aware and understand our reactions and how our work truly

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    impacts the teachers and the care professionals and the school counselor and all the people all the way down to students and families.

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    Yes QA well and for the purposes of this webinar today. I created, Sal behaviors for educational leaders, this is just an example. In my book start with the heart of SEO behaviors for educators, with examples for every competency and really the idea is,

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    is to just be able to read a behavior like sharing talents or strengths with our cabinet leadership teams or school board. That would be a self awareness skill in the sense that we ask ourselves, do we share those things.

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    And as an educational leader you can look at these various behaviors and and ask yourself, do I do this often do I sometimes do this or do I not do this at all.

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    And if you do it often, then you can celebrate that that is a skill. If you don't do it at all, then it may be something that you want to create a small goal around.

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    So these are just ideas of behaviors in the realm of a specific competency. And if you access the book you'll be able to see them for educators in every competency.

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    The other thing that you include in your text Michelle that I just love Is it for each competency you have advice, basically from students or thoughts, you know from students and I think that's so powerful because rarely do we have time as educators to

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    really think about how do students view this information coming in. What ideas do they have to make this process or this information better, and I just, I feel like it's a very valuable part of the text, and I don't know, I created an application, out

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    of it for the course because I think that's very impactful and it helps our educators and our leaders grow.

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    Yes, two observations about the course Keely you use the word application and someone else might need a quick translation that that's an assignment in your course but the courses that you develop are so purposeful for practitioners that you are applying

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    the, the knowledge and so the, what you've identified is an application within the course. I also wanted to point out that you are very careful in reading the books around which you build your courses.

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    And part of what was attractive in Michelle's book is this reality that there needs to be some guidance on how to take steps forward and it's a really accessible book with both of the big picture, and the concrete steps.

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    Welcome well chosen. Well, yeah, I love Michelle's book I love that there's a storyline through it that we can connect to. And then there's research on SEO but then also the, the applicability and for for learners as in our courses we focus on applicability

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    and reflection because we feel like those are the, the two of the most powerful things that help teachers grow in their professional practice. Yeah, so when I saw Michelle's book and, and we did our internal review I was like this is this is definitely

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    a text that teachers need to read.

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    I think as you say that Katie we have to remember and educational leaders that are listening remember that so many of your new newer teachers younger teachers that are just coming into the profession.

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    They don't have Sal development in most of their pre service education classes and so in addition, nor do teachers that have been in the profession for a while, so it's so crucial that we provide opportunities for all of our teachers to learn.

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    A group of educators that asked me last night. What I thought was the key ingredient for someone to last for a long time in education, and I wish I had said take this course read Michelle's book, but I think that having having the internal and external

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    Sal skills, knowledge and understanding. Those are the key ingredients in in being able to sustain and be an effective teacher over time.

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    It makes a difference. There's not an SPL requirement in any of that school programs that I'm aware of, and there probably should be. Yeah, I think we're getting there.

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    I hope we're getting there. But at this point there there aren't and Wendy I want to add to that as well i think i think that the SEO I always say we are ignite of hope, as educators and SEO is the fuel, but as an ignite or of hope, we've got to remember

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    why did we choose this vocation, in the first place. You know, this isn't a job educator serve of a vocation, it's a calling. And we've got to get back sometimes to the root of, why did we choose it.

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    And and remind ourselves of that so that we can grab on to that passion that we felt the reason that we really got into it because sometimes we get bogged down by the email and the policies and and the requirements from not only our district but from

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    the state and, and the federal government as well and so we've really got to get back to starting with the heart, our own, first and foremost, that's interesting Michelle a couple years ago I did a presentation at Anna Lee, the Association for middle

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    level educators and it was on teacher burnout and and well being. It was interesting because I was giving statistics about burnout and, and then I then I flip the conversation and we started talking about and then have them turn to their neighbors.

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    I had them start talking about their why, what is your Why Why are you in education, and the whole just the whole tone and feeling the in the room change, and it went from, you know, negative burnout to, I want to talk about why it became a teacher in

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    the first place. And so, a really quick activity to help teachers build self awareness and for you to better understand why your teachers are there as well, is to let them talk about that for 10 minutes at a staff meeting, talk to your neighbor about

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    why you became a teacher, it's so simple but the energy that you'll get from that is is quite amazing. Actually, you were an ignite or of hope Keeley at that session.

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    Yes, you were, you know, that's really as centered around Simon signet cynics work, you know, start it starts with y or start with why I think is the name of his book or one of his books.

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    And really what he says is we can know what we do. We can even know how to do it, but unless we know our why it lacks meaning and purpose. So that's why you saw that shift and that passion, it brings us back to our meeting and our purpose.

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    Dropped Simon's name into the chat in case there we go. Thank you for later on. Yeah. Talk to me about them, they're always watching you know this is so important in my book that that start with the heart book igniting hope in schools through social emotional

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    learning is really an SEO one on one, it would be phenomenal for every staff member to read and there are books studies questions in there as well. The course that can be created is phenomenal because it really explains.

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    Each of the competencies, but in addition or And in addition, I should say.

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    There is an entire chapter dedicated to the fact that it's got to start with the adults. We know that the skills are important for students. But if we don't model, Sal skills and behaviors, then the actual teaching of it is going to be more difficult,

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    and for our students, it will have less meaning, and I love this picture of these big beautiful eyes because we've got to remember.

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    Our students are always watching, and as educational leaders, our staff, our teachers and counselors and bus drivers and and administrative assistants and cafeteria.

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    I mean, Everyone who serves our school community, they're watching us. And so our behavior what we do has got to match what we say.

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    That's what's integrity. Right. And we do what we say. And when it comes to SEO skills. we've got to remember that we want to model, our expectations.

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    Michelle, while we're talking about modeling, I would be grateful to have you talk about whether or not there is a look of someone who is Sal competent, do you find is and as a content area expert in SEO.

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    Is there a range does do I will I appear the same as you, as an SEO sensitive human being, you know, that's a really, really interesting question Wendy and, and this is where my brain is automatically going to go and then you can tell me if I'm taking

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    it too far off from your, and everyone's here to here to learn from you so fear. Here's what I believe about living and learning.

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    We are always growing.

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    We all have strengths, and we all have opportunities in our lives, where we can grow.

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    And I think every individual person is going to experience different times within their lives, different moments where they're incredibly self aware, in certain situations and other moments when they're not.

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    Same thing with all the other competencies. There are times over this year last year and a half, that many of us have become more socially aware.

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    We discovered things that we should have known and that many people didn't know that weren't new ideas about the racial and justices and in justices in society, and within our educational system, those in justices we're always there.

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    But the pandemic and the murder of George Floyd shone a light on those injustices and many of us had to do some self reflection and some social awareness as well as probably some self management.

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    And so there are always situations in our lives that will cause us to recognize our own strengths, or realize where we need to grow.

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    And so in answer to your question. I don't think any of us are done yet.

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    You know, or are finished our experts in the field we should all always be growing.

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    And I asked the question because I appreciate that too, like, I don't, I don't think that anyone is perfect from an SEO standpoint right there's not a perfect teacher perfect leader that meets all five of those competencies and it's just, it's impossible

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    to be perfect right so i think if we show as leaders that we're open to growth and that we are even if we're just modeling, the idea of asking ourselves the question and doing some metacognition.

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    I think that that's positive so I think it's going to be really hard to find a perfect model of of an SEO practitioner, but I think one of the most important things is as Michelle said really using your life to learn and to grow and to gain more experience

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    and to try to fully understand what's going on around us. So I think it's a lot of asking questions and then modeling that willingness to learn and grow.

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    I asked the question because I want to acknowledge that the way you identified yourself Michelle is a higher energy human being. I want to acknowledge that, that, that the the the look of walking through a monastery on a Silent Retreat weekend may may

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    seem like it's the benchmark. But, but, but it's not. And I think we should all be okay with who we are and how we are and acknowledge that these are skills that we are developing and they can look and feel different for foreign with different people

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    in different contexts, one to remember that we are better together.

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    You know, we really want to leverage our strengths, we don't all want to be the same.

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    And so to be able to learn from one another within our schools, what a phenomenal opportunity. It's a great way to elevate social awareness create opportunities as educational leaders for for your, your staff to learn from each other.

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    And think about this from your staff to learn from your students and their families, you can create family nights in which people share their tradition their culture, their ways of being.

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    What a way to increase social awareness.

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    Thanks Michelle This is great.

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    All right so Kelly Will you share this one with us. I will it says when we strive to be self aware and responsible and to practice self control when we value building and maintaining relationships with others.

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    When we accept others without intentional bias or judgment. And when we take care of our own social and emotional well being. Our students will be more inclined to listen, learn and emulate these actions.

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    This is like I want to drop the mic like I didn't write those words but if I feel like it sums up what we're trying to say like all of us in education we have this responsibility to do these things so that students will listen and learn and emulate the

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    Well when I wrote that keep in mind that the the third word there is strive want to get back to the fact that we've got to give ourselves grace, none of us are perfect.

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    So we strive. We figured out what we value, we practice acceptance. All of these things are our efforts on our part.

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    I put a note in I feel like this was a very well chosen quote fully to follow the model slide because it's not just modeling to be out there, it's modeling because that there will be changed that follows the students will internalize and then grow with

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    We have been talking about a course we've been talking about a book, and if you were wanting to capture those here. Start with the heart igniting hope in schools through social emotional learning is Michelle true heroes book.

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    The social and emotional learning starts with you, is Keely Keller's course available through learners edge, the slides that we have been sharing are going to be available, and certainly an on demand recording of this webinar, the chat, you all have offered

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    some wonderful contributions to one another, around the questions that have been raised and the topics that we've come to celebrate together as a community of educational leaders, all of that will be made available to you.

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    I'm going to pause and see what additional items may come into the chat in case there's some questions that I can offer to Michelle, and to Keely anything specific that you're looking for.

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    I'll go back to one that was offered a little earlier Michelle maybe this is one that you would take first it was asking, I'm thinking about our role is school leaders we are often the in those discussions for hiring new colleagues in our, in our educational

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    communities are there some particular questions that you might advise that we ask as part of an interview process to sort of get a finger on the pulse of whether someone is coming with at least an appreciation for this value in the school community.

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    That's a great question and fact I was just having this discussion with a school in school superintendent yesterday. And she said that she asked the question about to tell me why Sal is important to some of her interviewees, and she said three quarters

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    of them were not sure what she was talking about.

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    So, yes, so I believe and and granted these weren't interviewees for a teaching position but still I think it's important that we ask that that open ended question about Tell me what you know about social emotional learning.

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    I also think is a great question is what does social emotional learning look like to you.

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    And and with that, we would be able to determine is the person aware of the competencies, is the person aware of the skills related to the competencies.

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    So often when people hear social emotional learning they just think well we just have to emotionally take care of ourselves. Yes, that is part of it, but it's so much more people also connected to trauma informed care that is part of it, but it is so

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    much more.

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    There are some states that use different language for this type of work and this type of curriculum, we may hear student wellness we may hear emotional wellness, there may be some other terms and so I would invite everybody to think about the language

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    that's being used in their district or state and either create a bridge, so that people can understand that the terms are representing related concepts or the same concepts, or at least acknowledge that the language will help people to access the concepts.

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    Well, and Wendy I'm so glad that you said that I use social emotional learning, because it is the language to date and it gives a modality for the skills, but the reason that I advocate for a way of being, is because the terminology be at social emotional

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    learning emotional intelligence restorative practices, the trauma informed care, we know in education, there is the wheel and the terminology may change the way of being, it doesn't.

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    That's great.

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    Some additional terms came in the chat too but if we talk about way of being. It's hard to be confused about that. Yes, another question coming in about how to get your book good we'll follow up with these kinds of questions other examples are coming.

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    This is great.

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    Gary interactive chat box I love that this is a good one. What a gift we're giving to one another. I would love to ask a little bit about maybe some takeaways that you would like for school leaders to have from this conversation and Kelly I'll come to

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    you first with this one because I know you've spent time taking in the book and thinking about how to make it into a course for leaders, I would recommend as a leader arranging for a group to take your course but that's me speaking.

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    What What would you like to see as a takeaway from today's conversation. Yeah, I think, you know, it's about thinking about internal, you know, how does this this information impact me as a leader internally, but then also what can I do with the information

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    to impact you know others outside of me. Right. And so I think it's about, like we said place that put a placeholder in a staff meeting, have a dedicated spot in your newsletter about social emotional learning, and make sure that your new teachers are,

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    are taught about social emotional learning, and that your focus with your teachers are really it's kind of dual right it's about making sure they have time to become more self aware and and maybe figure out some learning goals specific each competency,

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    competency, but then also making sure that we take the SEO information and allow teachers to be able to figure out how to apply that to their classroom or their, their role.

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    And so I do think it's about taking the time to really deeply explore SEO with your staff members, but I feel like you can do that in little bits in chunks the way.

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    Both Michelle's text is laid out and also the way that capital has laid out the information on SEO as well.

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    Michelle, what would you add as a takeaway recommendation from our experience together in this webinar.

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    Hey yeah I just want everyone here today to remember that if they don't understand, and practice and model Sal skills themselves they're going to have difficulty setting expectations for it or encouraging their staff to to practice it themselves so it

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    starts with truly understanding and internalizing reflecting upon what does SEO look like in your life, walk away with that question, and take some time to be able to answer it.

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    And then articulate your answer to someone you trust How about that there's a challenge for you.

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    This is perfect. We started a few minutes after the hour so I'm grateful that we were able to share a few minutes beyond our intended time, and maybe people will use the next few minutes before whatever meeting starts on the hour to pause and think and

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    breathe and and consider how to hold themselves accountable for the conversations and the commitments that we make as educators, Michelle Trujillo, author of start with the heart igniting hope in schools through social emotional learning Keely Keller,

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    Director of professional programs for learners edge and course, writer, we all need to be in your course, if you could put that slide up one more time for us, we'll take a look as I thank everyone for joining in the conversation.


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